• All Blacks captain Kieran Read finds gardening a relaxing way to get away from rugby.

“I find it therapeutic to come out and dig a few holes,” Read tells former Crusaders and All Blacks team-mate Andy Ellis on Seven Sharp.

Ellis, an award-winning gardener, made his debut on the TVNZ 1 show with his “My Backyard” segment on Monday night.

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Andy Ellis, left, has interviewed his former Crusdaders and All Blacks team-mate Kieran Read on Seven Sharp.